For those who died

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By lovemychris

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This Hub is dedicated to those Americans who died on 9/11, 2001.

And dedicated to those Americans who never believed the bogus story we were sold.

This is from the heart of an American who yearns for Justice and the Truth.

>Semper Fidelis<


"A man who does not know the truth is just an idiot but a man who knows the truth and calls it a lie is a crook!" --Bertolt Brecht


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"Within three hours of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Robin Hordon knew it was an inside job. He had been an Air Traffic Controller (ATC) for eleven years before Reagan fired him and hundreds of his colleagues after they went on strike in the eighties. Having handled in-flight emergencies and two actual hijackings in his career, he is well qualified to comment on what NORAD should have been able to achieve in its response to the near simultaneous hijacking of four domestic passenger carriers on the morning of September 11th, 2001."

http://www.communitycurrency.org/robin.html


"Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers, intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report. Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11. This page of the website is a collection of their statements. The website does not represent any organization and it should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated with this website."

http://patriotsquestion911.com/


Video: Major General Chief Of US. Military Intelligence Says 911 Is An Inside Job

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/09/23/video-major-general-chief-of-us-military-intelligence-says-911-is-an-inside-job/


"Intentionally, I and I want to underline this, intentionally they are not going after the middlemen and the people at the top. So to this day the American public have not heard who is the real culprit behind 9/11. There is money laundering, and certain narcotic and weapons procurements involved."

Ms Edmonds went on to reveal that the criminal elements are active within all three branches of Government. Plus there are those who are working outside government towards the same agenda. She suggests that we should look towards lobbying groups who are registering as agents of foreign governments, such as International Advisors Inc, the lobbying company set up by arch Neo-Con Richard Perle, which is registered with the State Department as "agents of Turkey."

These groups, with weighty influences upon the foreign policy of the US Government, some, including Perle, Pentagon architects of the Iraq war, are operating with elements of the Government in a nexus like fashion, moving around vast amounts of money and arms and profiteering from directing world events."

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=59872


Former FBI chief Ted Gundersen says 9/11 was an inside job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPNN-y_c3g


"September 29, 2004

Three years ago, in the aftermath of 9-11, I reported that eyewitnesses had seen and heard officially unexplained explosions in the World Trade Center buildings before and during their collapses. Van Romero, an explosives expert at New Mexico Tech, told the Albuquerque Journal on 9-11: "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse." The collapse was "too methodical to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures," Romero said. However, for no apparent reason, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) attacked me and a newspaper that published my articles for publishing evidence of explosions at the World Trade Center. Why would an organization ostensibly dedicated to defending civil rights and Jews find fault with an article about explosions at the WTC? Three months after 9-11, the ADL accused American Free Press of using the 9-11 attacks "as grist for its mill."

http://www.bollyn.com/was-9-11-an-inside-job-2


Held In A Psychiatric Ward & Called “Delusional” For Saying 9/11 Was An Inside Job

By Clare Swinney, Member of Scholars For 9/11 Truth & Justice.

"I was wrongly diagnosed as delusional by the psychiatric staff of Ward 7 at Northland Base Hospital in Whangarei and held against my will for 11 days in mid-2006, because I maintained the attacks of 9/11 were orchestrated by criminal elements inside the US Administration."

http://clareswinney.wordpress.com/incarcerated-in-a-psychiatric-ward-because-i-said-911-was-an-inside-job/


Richard Falk endorses 9/11 “inside job” theory, interviewed in his official UN capacity

http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2011/03/21/richard-falk-endorses-911-inside-job-theory-interviewed-in-his-official-un-capacity/

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Since first voicing my beliefs on September 12, 2001, I have been subject to a lot of abuse from my fellow Americans. I understand that this is something so monstrous that no one wants to believe it could be true.

But it is our Patriotic duty, for those people who were murdered, and their families, to find out the truth and prosecute the perpetraitors.

The history of Humanity is a long saga full of corruption and evil-doing. But evil only prospers when good people do nothing about it.

As for those un-willing to consider the doubts of millions of people all around the world, and the absolute certainty of some, myself included.....you can have your opinions without demonizing those who don't agree with you!

Or is it fear that makes you lash out? Fear of admitting that there really is nothing some people won't do for power.

To be continued.........



"We aren’t buying the war on terror anymore, we know better. It has been a scam from day one. Not everyone is ready to call it “murder,” not yet.

I know it was murder, 9/11, Madrid, 7/7, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the drones, the drugs, all of it, we know every bit of it.

There is a very real criminal conspiracy in this world. That Bush has outlived Gaddafi shocks many. The crew that captured Gaddafi included VT contributors. It is not for me, who never lived under Gaddafi, to tell others how to react. I wanted Gaddafi alive to hear him tell us how much he paid Bush and Berlusconi and Sarkozy and Blair and so many others. This is my selfishness. I want all of them, not a few, not one, I want all of them to pay for the suffering they have caused. I have seen millions around the world enslaved, starved, kept in sickness and ignorance to make money for the few. The scale of it is beyond anything I have yet to read, it is entire continents."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/10/26/warning-what-time-is-it/


Bush in B.C.: Canada Hosts a War Criminal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckqxoal2ACM


Excellent list of those who question the official story:

http://www.infowars.com/highly-credible-people-question-911/


Per Christopher Bollyn, "Birnbaum is a multi-millionaire partner at Skadden Arps, Birnbaum works with the former chief of the International Order of B'nai B'rith (Jewish Freemasons), Kenneth J. Bialkin."The NY Times only mentioned Sheila Birnbaum once before she became the "special master" for remaining cases that had "gag orders". "It's a shut-up fund," said Ellen Mariani, who lost her husband, Neil, on United Airlines Flight 175. Mariani refused to accept money from the compensation fund. "I want to know everything," Mariani said. In particular she wants to know how the five terrorists boarded United Flight 175. This is the key question about 9-11 that goes straight to the culpability of Israeli-owned Huntleigh USA's screening and pre-flight security for the airports involved on 9-11.The 911 litigation gave the appearance of Israeli loyalist Judge Hellerstein protecting those accused of the crimes."

"One expected the NY Times to speak out strongly on behalf of the victims and relatives of those lost on 9-11. After all, not one of the 96 wrongful death lawsuits of 9-11 victims came close to getting a "fair and open trial." Nearly all of the wrongful death lawsuits settled secretly out of court thru the special negotiator Sheila L. Birnbaum, a NY lawyer who specializes in insurance law and tort litigation at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP (a.k.a. Skadden Arps), where she works with her senior partner, Kenneth J. Bialkin, age 80.Birnbaum's key role in trying to settle all 9-11 lawsuits out of court is a well kept secret. It is not discussed in the controlled media and not mentioned on her biographical webpage at Skadden Arps."

"The CONVENIENTLY DESIGNATED judge for all 9-11 lawsuits iwas DEEPLY tied to Israel, whose military intelligence was the key defendant in the 9-11 tort litigation. U.S. district judge ALVIN K. HELLERSTEIN'S only son, Joseph, was found living in an illegal Jewish settlement on the West Bank (Modi'in) and working for an Israeli law firm in Tel Aviv -- since 2001. (Even the courts appear to be an inside job.)PROBLEM: The key defendant is Huntleigh USA, the passenger screening company that mysteriously failed to prevent 19 alleged hijackers from boarding planes on 9-11. Huntleigh is owned by the ISRAELI firm of ICTS, which is run by senior officers of Israeli intelligence. Judge Hellerstein pushed the relatives, already suffering, hard to reach out-of-court settlements to avoid fair and open trials that would have to answer questions and lead to discovery of the Israeli criminal network behind 9-11."

"Information for Counsel in September 11 Litigation Unless otherwise noted, all hearings and conferences will be held in Judge Hellerstein's courtroom, 14D, 500 Pearl Street. Cases involving claims arising out of, resulting from, or relating to the terrorist-related aircraft crashes of September 11, 2001 and naming an airline, an airport security company, and/or The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey have been consolidated for discovery and other pre-trial proceedings. Honorable Alvin K. Hellerstein, District Judge, is presiding."

"The Criminal 9/11 Judge Strikes Again! .... The family fighting the last remaining wrongful death lawsuit against the airlines from the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks says it settled because judge Alvin Hellerstein "essentially gutted" their case. Mark Bavis' family has said it wanted to use the lawsuit to expose the airlines' security failures and force them to take responsibility for their role in the attacks. But in a public letter issued on Wednesday, the Bavises say decisions by U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein guaranteed that "the truth about what led to the events of Sept. 11, 2001, would never be told at trial." Alvin Hellerstein is a criminal traitor, guilty of obstruction of justice, ruling on all the critical 9/11 cases against the victims and the factual evidence."

"Bernard Kerik, President Bush's choice to run the Homeland Security Department, made $6.2 million by exercising stock options he received from a company that sold stun guns to the department of homeland security — and seeks more business with it. Taser International was one of many companies that received consulting advice from Kerik after he left his job as New York City police commissioner in 2001. Partnering with former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and also operating independently, Kerik has had business arrangements with manufacturers of prescription drugs, computer software and bulletproof materials, as well as companies selling nuclear power, telephone service, insurance and security advice for Americans working abroad."

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=IranContraScumDid911#p/u


"The body scanner is sure to get a go-ahead because of the illustrious personages hawking them. Chief among them is former DHS secretary Michael Chertoff, who now heads the Chertoff Group, which represents one of the leading manufacturers of whole-body-imaging machines, Rapiscan Systems. For days after the attack, Chertoff made the rounds on the media promoting the scanners, calling the bombing attempt "a very vivid lesson in the value of that machinery"—all without disclosing his relationship to Rapiscan. According to the Washington Post:

Chertoff’s advocacy for the technology dates back to his time in the Bush administration. In 2005, Homeland Security ordered the government’s first batch of the scanners—five from California-based Rapiscan Systems.

Today, 40 body scanners are in use at 19 U.S. airports. The number is expected to skyrocket at least in part because of the Christmas Day incident. The Transportation Security Administration this week said it will order 300 more machines.

In the summer, TSA purchased 150 machines from Rapiscan with $25 million in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds."

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/01/airport-scanner-scam


"Tom Daschle's wife was a big time lobbyist for American Airlines And guess what?Days after 9/11/01, Daschle pushed through the billion dollar grease to the Airlines of our tax dollars. And then the Airline CEO's promptly layed off tens of thousands of workers, reduced their flights to rural areas, passed all the security screening and costs back to the taxpayers...AND GAVE THEMSELVES TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN EXECUTIVE BONUSES with our tax dollars...AND THEN BEGAN FLIRTING WITH BANKRUPTCY PROTECTIONS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3141021&mesg_id=3141129


Saturday, October 29, 2011

9/11: Comparing What Happened at the Pentagon with Another Jetliner Crash


http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2011/10/911-comparing-what-happened-at-pentagon.html


9-11 Cop Breaks Silence


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdRhndfEGY


On March 4, 2001, Rupert Murdoch's FOX Television aired the pilot episode of an X-Files spin-off series called "The Lone Gunman" (The title is taken from the name of a team of investigative reporters' government watchdog newspaper). The program depicts a staged hijacking of a passenger aircraft by a hostile faction in the U.S Government, who take control of the plane by remote control and attempt to fly it into one of the twin towers of the World Trade Center...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26g18Dg7db4


Riley said he lobbied to keep the cover intact because he wanted people to consider that it is not only foreign terrorists, but the United States as well, that have committed atrocious acts.

Album Cover was designed with a drawing of planes hitting the twin towers. It has been removed from the web-site.

The Man Who Wasn't There: How Louis Freeh escaped responsibility for 9/11 July 9, 2002

For more than a month, congressional committees have been investigating America's recent track record on intelligence and counterterrorism. Members of Congress have heard from Robert Mueller, the current chief of the FBI, and George Tenet, the current chief of the CIA. They've heard from former heads of these agencies, such as William Webster. They've taken testimony from a star-studded array of other intelligence and counterterrorism worthies. But along the way, it somehow hasn't occurred to any of the committees doing post-9/11 investigations to call up Louis J. Freeh, the man who headed the FBI—the country's primary domestic intelligence and counterterrorism agency—from 1993 to June 2001, the most critical eight years in question.

In September 2001, Freeh was appointed to the board of directors of credit card issuer MBNA; he also served as the bank's general counsel, as well as corporate secretary and ethics officer. Likewise, Bristol-Myers Squibb elected him to its board of directors.

Freeh is also a member of the board of consultants of the Gavel Consulting Group, formed by current and former federal judges and high-ranking government officials to provide advice and counseling to the private sector.

Source: Wikepedia

Freeh's also in charge of investigating the Penn State child rapes by Jerry Sandusky.

Freeh's also the lead investigator in the theft of over one billion dollars from the MF Global Fund.


"The two Mossad teams sent regular coded reports on the progress of the 9/11 operation to Tel Aviv via the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC. WMR has learned from a Pentagon source that leading Americans tied to the media effort to pin 9/11 on Arab hijackers, Osama Bin Laden, and the Taliban were present in the Israeli embassy on September 10, 2001, to coordinate their media blitz for the subsequent days and weeks following the attacks. It is more than likely that FBI counter-intelligence agents who conduct surveillance of the Israeli embassy have proof on the presence of the Americans present at the embassy on September 10. Some of the Americans are well-known to U.S. cable news television audiences."

http://www.opinion-maker.org/2011/01/british-intelligence-reports/#


"Although warned by Dick Cheney to “tow the line”, Senator Paul Wellstone questioned the official version of 9/11. For that he paid with his life. Interveiws with eyewitnesses, first responders and friends on his fatal “aircrash”

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=40668


BBC - Correspondent says MOSSAD did 9/11

Another removed video.


Interesting analysis:

http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2012/01/911-emergency-response-at-pentagon.html

"Ex-Naval Intelligence officer William Cooper- author of Behold a Pale Horse- did a radio talk show in Phoenix in October 2001. Cooper lost both his legs when he was run off the road after exposing various elements of Illuminati plans for a New World Order. Now he suggested CIA and Israeli Mossad involvement in 911, naming Mossad operative Josie Hadas as the handler of the Arab patsies involved in the hijackings. Internet and cable feeds from the broadcast were immediately cut. A few days later Cooper was gunned down at 1:00 AM in his home by Maricopa County deputies."


"In the last week, three important new articles have added to our understanding and raised new questions about the crimes of September 11, 2001. As of today, Friday morning, there is nary a peep about their contents in the U.S.mainstream media. The lack of apparent media attention may be in keeping with character, and predictable, but sad nonetheless. When are they going to wake up? Can we make a valid prediction market for that date?"

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2012/02/24/media-sleepwalks-while-history-is-in-the-making/#more-12407


"The private briefings on the Kabalah, done at the Pentagon were not unseen, those that we call Dispensationalists or Dominionists who believed that the numerological elements combined with the astrophysical alignments predicted were, as you privately call it among yourselves, “the finger of g-d,” had given you “biblical authority” to betray your oaths and bring about the wanton murder of thousands of Americans."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/19/balancing-the-911-account-the-military/


Roseanne Barr

its 911


anonymous blogger:

"One of the things that is really challenging is questioning the so called reality of events in the early stages, especially if some tragedy ensues. This is exactly what happened with 911. Early researchers were shut and shouted down by people for being insensitive. Ironically the remains of the people that we were supposed to be sensitive about were dumped in a land fill zone on Staten Island."


"Secrets are More Often Conspiracies and Shame and Seldom are National Security"

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/26/tidbits-what-is-being-held-back-from-you/


"Kidnapped and Imprisoned to Silence Him for Dealings With Bush and Israel Over 9/11"


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/06/victor-bout-must-be-silenced/


Jesse Ventura: 9/11 official story "nonsensical".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s&feature=player_embedded#!









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shobis profile image

shobis 7 months ago

We all are prejudiced and trend follower .We lives in our own world of Hypocracy.We see the insicdents and move to another channel until something happens to Us!.

You are a very deep writer as i just recenlty read two of your hubs .Voted up ,intersting and Beautiful.

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lovemychris Hub Author 7 months ago

Thank you shobis. You are right....we don't care until it happens to us. That is why I love our heritage in America so much! "Try to walk in another man's moccasins/shoes." Too bad we lost it.

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lovemychris Hub Author 7 months ago

"You see there is something about Marines. They have been called Leathernecks, gyrenes, devil dogs and many other epithets for good reasons. They happen to be some of the most highly trained killers on the planet. They also happen to be some of the closest of all military comrades. Their motto is "Semper Fi" ~ always faithful ~ and their dedication is third to the Constitution, second to the Corps and first to their buddies.

But you fkkk with a Marine, treat him like a piece of garbage, disrespect him and then wound him grievously out on the streets of an American city when he is peacefully protesting under the banner of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America...When you do that you have just pissed off one helluva lot of Marines.

Fort Sumter moment. Tipping Point. As of the moment the Oakland cops did it unto Scott Olsen, the Rothschild empire has transmuted their own trained killers into a force on which they can no longer rely. They have created their own worst nightmare."

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lovemychris Hub Author 7 months ago

"I can only add that there's no such thing as an 'ex-Marine', so it's ripples in a bigger pond than many may realize."

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Hollie Thomas Level 4 Commenter 6 months ago

Hi LMC,

I've missed you, as you've not been around I've had to come looking for you. Glad I did, because I got to read this hub while I've been here. Yes, they have definitely bitten off more than they can currently chew. I watched some of the footage re: Oakland. Sadly, I believe things are about to get a whole lot worse with regards Police brutality and arrests, hell, if you can't control the masses, then criminalize them, there are enough prisons (they've made sure of that) . But, on a more positive note, more and more people are beginning to question and challenge, more and more people are taking to the streets. There's an old saying that the scum Illuminati should carefully consider. 'be careful who you cross on the way up,'cos you just might meet them again on the way down'

Anyway, interesting link here when you've got a minute. Some thought provoking time lines, too. ;)

http://www.threeworldwars.com/new-world-order.htm

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lovemychris Hub Author 6 months ago

Hi Hollie!

Yes, I've been banned for 3 months...for the Occupy Together thread...?? Then, of course the ones who did it attacked me when my voice was silenced. What guts, huh! Oh yes...demonized my beliefs, then laughed about how stupid and crazy I am ...Praise God! I know them. Have met up with them all my life. Maybe many lives.

Anyway--you are right. It won't be long now before the whole house of cards collapses...and that is why they are so desperate now.IMO Am going to click on that link now...always love new insight and ideas!!! The old ones...ehhh, have NO USE FOR. Keep up the Good Fight Hollie. The people are UP!

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Hollie Thomas Level 4 Commenter 6 months ago

Indeed they are, and you my friend will not be silenced for long. Because I, will come find you! Three months, please, did you have the audacity to speak the truth? I will be checking in soon, very soon. The people are up! ;)

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writerjay 6 months ago

So much of this I've never heard, but will be further checking it out.

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lovemychris Hub Author 6 months ago

Thank you Hollie and writerjay! Sorry it took so long to reply....I never go to my e-mail anymore due to the JUNK mail...;(

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feenix Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

Hello, lovemychris,

This is a very well-written and thought-provoking article.

However, I must say that I worked on the 82nd floor of Tower 2 of the World Trade Center for more than ten years. I was the Benifits Adminstrator for one of the largest construction companies in the world.

Any way, the company I worked for occupied 12 floors in the building, rent free. And the reason why it did not have to pay rent is that it had been secretly contracted by the New York-New Jersey Port Authority to reinforce and strengthen the buttressing of each of the two towers.

And it was estimated that job would take at least 20 years.

The point is, when the WTC was constructed in the 1960's, it was essentially thrown together like a house of playing cards. Because many were in a race to build the tallest buildings in the world, a whole lot of short cuts were taken which resulted in quite a bit of shoddy construction.

Thus, I know from both inside and first-hand knowledge that the reason why the two towers collapsed the way they did was NOT because explosive charges had been placed in strategic locations within the structures.

Each of the structures collapsed because they had been hastily constructed and were very flimsy, as a result.

Furthermore, once it was determined by U.S. forces that the airliners were headed towards deliberately crashing into the towers, there was nothing that could have been done to stop it.

For example, if U.S. military aircraft had shot down the two airliners before they hit their targets, it would have seemed as though the aircraft took aggressive action against "our own people" -- because, after all, if the planes had been taken out before they reached the targets, the public would not have been aware that they were going to crash into the WTC in the first place.

With all due respect, there are a lot of facts and realities about the destruction of the WTC that a former Air Traffic Controller would not know anything about.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

Yes, but Cheney TOLD them to shoot the planes down if necessary. Norman Mineta testified to it. And I live near Otis AFB,and those planes were delayed 80 minutes after the alert went out...and Cheney was in charge of NORAD that morning.

Too many questions for me to believe the official version...and my gut told me so when it happened...But, as Bob Kerry said, "maybe in 30 years we will know the truth."

Thank you for the kind words about the hub, though :)

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

What a great picture!!! I have never seen that one. That picture alone debunks the entire inside job theory.

When a demolition is done to take down a building, the explosions take place at the bottom first to weaken and guarentee the building will goe straight down. the collapse will start at the bottom. Your picture clearly shows the collapse did NOT start at the bottom but at the point of impaqct while the lower structure stood still. the top was collaping into the bottom. Also, notice no floors below the fire are blown out from expolsions, no smoke coming out of them. In addition notice the upper structure as it begins to collapse leans to the left, not collapsing straight down as a demolition fall would do. I could go on but that is enough to make my point.

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feenix Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

lovemychris,

If on the morning of September 11, 2001, USAF fighter jets had shot down four American airliners filled with passengers, what would your reaction have been?

Unless you are a fortune teller or soothsayer, you would have had no idea those planes got shot down because they were headed for crashing into the WTC.

Thus, as would have been the case among the vast majority of Americans, it would have appeared to you that our military forces took aggressive action against "our own people" or, at the very least, that the Air Force made a "grave, inexcusable error."

And I seriously doubt that Vice President Cheney ordered the airliners to be shot down. To prove that was the case, I have to be shown some official documentation.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

"Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, though it was omitted in their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:

“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out….and... ... when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?

Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, saying "When I overheard something about 'the orders still stand' and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down."

Norman Mineta made it clear to reporters-- who verified his quotes in written text alongside him-- that Mineta was indeed talking about a stand down order not to shoot down hijacked aircraft headed for the Pentagon.

After no shoot down took place, it became clear that Cheney intended to keep NORAD fighter jets from responding-- evidence that Cheney is guilty of treason, not negligence for allowing the Pentagon to be hit.

The idea that "the order still stands" matches up with a change in NORAD and Pentagon orders-- issued on June 1, 2001, only months before 9/11. The document revoked the default standing orders to shoot down errant or hijacked aircraft and instructed them instead to stand down until they were given orders by the President, Vice President or Secretary of Defense.

http://www.investigate911.info/index.php?itemid=60

Dick Cheney admits Flight 93 was shot down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC1QAR5gQrc&feature

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

LMC,

we have had this discussion before and I showed you then thaqt was not true. I am too tired to do it again, believe what you want

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

You don't have to do anything AV...I'm quite sure in my beliefs. But looks like you'll have a whole new group to "show", as the perps are now saying that Iran was responsible! AHA! right in time for bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran!

Did you know Israel tried to sell a missile to China? Now what do you think that is about??

"by deception shall you wage war" Don't forget it.

Deception, and He is a Liar and the Father of it. Truth AV,is all that matters.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

"These units, the most advanced Patriot system had only been supplied to nation, Israel. The 69 Patriot ICBM interceptors are believed to be a highly secret consignment demanded by Israel as protection from any retaliatory strike by Iran were war to break out in the region.

Instead of deploying them, the missiles were apparently sold to China labeled as “fireworks” according to Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen.

Though the missiles themselves were worth only $4 billion, the technology transfer itself would be worth over $125 billion, and represent a significant loss of defense capability for the United States."

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/brea

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago

Nothing else to add but to every American to read it.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

Thanks maxo. I will never forget those people waving white"flags" from the windows, and jumping to their deaths.And their families left behind.

High Treason.

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

LMC,

"I will never forget those people waving white"flags" from the windows, and jumping to their deaths."

Really, how many did you see? Were you there?

As for the Missle story, I cannot find enough on this to see what really happened so therefore what this blogger you linked to wrote may not be true. First this ship does not go to nor has ever been in Israel. The items in cargo were all loaded in the UK. The Finnish police did find those missles and other explosives bound for China. And these were missles made by Raethon. This should be interesting as it develops. You know if it turns out they were sold from Israel, not likely since Israel and China are not real good friends, you know CNN and MSNBC will be all over it.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

CNN and MSNBC and FOX and ABC and CBS and NBC and BBC and every other western media will NEVER be all over ANYTHING Israel. And if they were, the anti-Semite label would come out so fast, they would back down quicker than me hitting that cherry pie!

We are only shown pro-Israel media here.

That's why 330 members of our Congress vow to support Israel no matter what.

While they stand up and call our president a liar.

Why the illegal activites of Israel are supported by us, and why we don't give a crap about the genocide of the Palestinian people in Gaza.

We don't care, because we are not allowed to. And if you do, you are smeared and fired.

We are in a stranglehold, so don't worry.

That story wll somehow be changed so it was Muslims or Iran who did it.

And the ones that bite the hand that feeds them will keep biting.

And keep getting away with murder. For all the world to see.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

IMHO

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago

I wish that you "American view" will be one day be sacrificed by the government. And I will be the one to ignore your very existence.

It is with people like you that America remains a society of idiots.

Once again, VERY NICE JOB Chris! You are the example of what being American is, that is to say, fight for freedom.

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

Max,

Youn have no clue what you talk about. Before one calls someone else an idiot, know the facts. What is tha old saying, Oh yea, Better to let everyone think you are ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Since you are late to this discussion that has gone on with me and LMC for months, I will bring you up to date.

Not know waht sacrifice is? Not willing to lay ones life on the line? Have you? I was a LT for FDNY serving in an engine compnay all 15 years. My house was the busiest in NY. During my carrer I recieved 9 medals of honor and 3 medals of valor. Oh did I mention I was there on 911. SO do not ever tell me about sacrifice, I was willing to give my life at anytime while I served and never thought twice of it. I am sure I gave more on my one little finger than you will in your whole life.

One more thing, this time last year I was in a coma and on a ventalator due to the effects of the toxins I breathed for all the weeks I was there. I had a trach in my throat that was recently removed. During this time in the hospital, and for the year two years before that lead to this I was not able to work. While in th hospital, I lost my house, my truck, all my homes and personal contents were put in storage which eventually I could not afford to pay for and it was all sold at auction. SO I literaly have nothing but the shirt on my back. Is that enough sacrifice for you?

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago

That's true I will NEVER sacrifice myself for personal greed. I will NEVER be dragged by the military in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran soon because I am SMARTER. Nobody disposes of my life. I have ONLY ONE. Was America invaded by military troops? No! Then, you expect me to be as gullible than you?

And where did they lead you those medals? Nowhere. Where are those kids that were sacrificed for Vietnam? In the streets mostly. Where is Mother America to care for them now that they gave their sanity?

You chose to be impaled. The people in the World Trade did not have this opportunity. And you DARE comparing yourself to them! You chose your faith. They did not!

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Moderndayslave Level 2 Commenter 5 months ago

Great Hub, LMC

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

Thank mds...I know you know it too.....

and maxo, we have a real different view of freedom, don't we?

Av---you are not alone either...as I know! Plenty of people believe the official story, and I would not bash them for it.

To each his own. But it goes both ways.

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago

No thanks for rewriting a shameful page of the American history. I just can't accept that they are two versions of a prepared and premeditated event. As rational beings we are not entitled to subjectivity or fairy tales.

We are not in the Middle-Ages where only the clergy was educated and had access to knowledge. It is unforgivable.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

I would agree that it's unforgivable...which is why I don't. Nor do I forget. Not that any of them care...But anyone who was a Bushco supporter, and now comes after Obama, all I can say is "Talk to the Hand."

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago

And I will keep on delivering, to the image of Confucius's concentric circles, messages of truth. If ever a revolutionary movement is rising, it is impossible to read your hub and remain uninvolved.

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

LMC,

I know we have different veiws but we do respct each other for them. You Bud Maxo does not get it. I imagine he lives in a little hole in the wall and does not really know about life but has plenty to say. I would even venture to say by his answers he is young, 25 or under.

Max,

You are right it was planned I even wrote about it

http://americanview.hubpages.com/hub/A-Response-to

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago

Firstly you said that I was a communist, secondly that I was 25. You are all wrong but one thing I can assure is that I am more educated and you know why? Because of an economic system that you are defending with your life. An economic system that allows richer to benefit of the best education and poorer ones to go to the army.

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

Max,

See here is where we are different, you spout off inaccurate information. Where have I ever called you a communist, I challenge you to find it and show us. You will not be able to. I seriously doubt you being more educated. I am not going to waste my time telling you all the colleges I grad from and my degress or what my majors are. Besides my firefighting I owned a construction company that had a home featured in a magazine, was the largest Mechanical company for Carrier, and Bryant in NY.I sold the company and Moved to Texas. I became VP of a company building 174 homes per year. I built the company and when it sold Metroplex edvelopment was building 2000 homes and doing $655 million in commercial work. I went to Florida to take care of my parents. I met a gentleman one day in Lowes, I gave him some advise. We got to talking and it turns out he owned a very large cabinet, countertop, flooring and appliance company. He had one division losing $200,000 per month. He made me GM of that division. In 60 days it broke even and turned a profit every month after. So you are right again, I have no idea about economics.

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

Sorry I said 25, You must be 23

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

How do I get this thing off here, where I have to approve/deny every comment?

I will approve all of them, I don't need that button. And I see I had missed a lot on here!!!

No offense taken, I hope...it was not intended.

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago

When I make mistakes I assume them. You were right and I apologize. You did not accuse me of being a communist. I guessed I mixed it up with someone else's. I have a lot of enemies to my great pleasure.

However if you had education, you would consider the hypothesis of the government involvement and develop opinions upon facts brought by Chris. I admire minds with no doubts, that assume that anything said is a truism.

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American View Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

Max,

I accept your apology and the fact you made one has increased your stock with me. Most people here on HP will not admit when they are wrong.

As for education you are right and I do so. I consider everything written by a Hubber on a particular subject, I read all the links they provide to back their position. Not doing so in my opinion would be narrowminded. Reading all of it helps me to understand someone position, why they have the opinions they have. I never challenge any on their opinion, just what leads them to their opinion. Despite an opinion on a subject I may have, if someone shows me credible factual evidence, I have and will change my mind.

When it comes to events like 911, the Kennedy assasination and more, an active mind can spin almost as many stories on the subject as there are people.

Last, There are no "enemies" here, just people with differences of opinion and there is nothing wrong with that. I know I would consider the world a boring place if we all thought or believed the same.

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lovemychris Hub Author 5 months ago

Here is something I have learned along the way: The mind tricks. Truth is bodily knowledge, intuition. It's a feeling in your "gut", not a thought in your mind.

My gut told me about 9/11 before the evidence arrived to back it up.

I stick by my gut always, as life experience has shown me.

This includes my feelings about Obama, even though dreams can come from anywhere.

And even though every blogger I admire doesn't like him.

Go figure.

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maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 4 months ago

A text like Chris's doesn't invite anyone to ponder on which suit to wear or which toe nail not to wear to not excite, but is an open door to critical thinking.

I am more a liberal than a conservative. But when I see congressmen of different backgrounds, different schoolyards shaking hands and calling each others "buddies", I can't help wondering if they do represent me? And my critical thinking is launched.

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Moderndayslave Level 2 Commenter 4 months ago

This is beautiful, it's put simply for those that have a hard time keeping up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd

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lovemychris Hub Author 4 months ago

Ha! Exactly mds!!! I forgot about that girl's testimony...she was the daughter of a Saudi prince or something!

Here's some weird stuff max: you can fold a 20 dollar bill a certain way, and it portrays the twin towers burning!

And allegedly, Timothy McVeigh's last words were 9/11.

But sometimes i sit and think about it....My God....what kind of people are these?

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American View Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

Well I made it to the 43 second mark where the picture of the whiskey in a glass was shown and there were several incorrect facts and at least 5 other points that were nothing but opinion. Just another typical truther who was out to make money on the back of one of our countries worst ragedies.

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lovemychris Hub Author 4 months ago

I love it! Just the right dose of "yeah, riiiiight".

It's unbelievable what they want us to believe...and that girl was ACTING ON THE STAND. LIED to Congress. Caused a military reaction: Hello----responsibilty anyone?

And the Jessica story....ALL a farce! for the Rah Rah crowd.

Then, of course, there is the football player killed by friendly fire.....OH his family was LIED to too.

Agh....for shame! Shame and damnation.

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Moderndayslave Level 2 Commenter 4 months ago

AV where have you been? I have been all over the forums I haven't seen you.I post one thing about 911,,,Bam there you are. Things that make you go mmmmmm????? Almost like a paid troll?

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Hollie Thomas Level 4 Commenter 3 months ago

Or a gullible patriot. Funny, the two often equate to the same.

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American View Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Funny, I see you when I comment and never here from you unless it is about 911.

Hollie, the only ones gullible are the ones not there or have no clue about the science of firefighting. I was there for 3 weeks, where were you? Ask yourself this, where are all those who lectured and were spouting there false propaganda that 911 was a fake? Since the lecture tour dried up, they went back to teaching at the local university. They were nothing more than carnies looking to make a buck.

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Moderndayslave Level 2 Commenter 3 months ago

Who caused 911 is what is in question. Not whether it happened,who died trying to save people or who cleaned up the mess. Please learn the difference.

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